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Board of Supervisors Work Session
4/26/2017 6:00 PM

Work Session

Minutes

 

The work session of the Buckingham Township Board of Supervisors was held  April 26, 2017 in the Township Building, 4613 Hughesian Drive, Buckingham, Pennsylvania.             

 

Present:           Maggie Rash                           Chairman

                           Paul Calderaio                         Vice-Chairman

                           Jon Forest                                Member

                           Dana Cozza                              Township Manager

                           Lynn Bush                                Bucks County Planning Commission

                           Dan Gray                                  Township Engineer

                           Tom Kelso                               Township Water/Wastewater Consultant

                           Craig A. Smith, Esquire        Township Solicitor

 

The work session commenced at 6:00 p.m.

 

Request for Waiver of Land Development, submitted by Catherine A. Ponist for Crystal Clear Holdings LLC, 1950 Durham Road, TMP 6-18-20

 

Catherine and Dan Ponist were present to request a waiver from land development and stormwater requirements for a proposed remodeling of and addition to the existing structure, and the addition of 3 gravel spaces to the parking area.  They explained with the proposed improvements only 100 square feet of impervious surface will be added to the existing footprint.

 

Mrs. Ponist noted they had received a comment from Knight Engineering that while reviewing aerial photos, it appeared the gravel parking area had expanded over the years. She said over the years the parking area may have changed due to the snowplow pushing the stones around, also that some of the stones were pushed into the mulch which may make it appear to be additional parking areas from an aerial view. Mrs. Ponist also explained they had spray painted white lines on the gravel so that customers knew where to park. She said the only paved parking are the required handicapped spaces and near Route 413.

 

Mr. Gray described the project’s history, noting that originally the first phase of the expansion was approved with stormwater management deferred, with the expectation that a fully engineered land development submission would be prepared for the second phase of the building addition and parking, with stormwater addressed to cover both phases of the development. What is proposed now is the second phase, but with another land development waiver being sought.

 

Mrs. Rash explained that stormwater management requirements are mandated by the state, and cannot be waived by the township.

 

Mrs. Ponist said due to the existing drainage ditch located in the center of the property, they have severe restrictions in developing the lot, and felt their lot accommodates runoff from other properties. Mr. Gray agreed there are restrictions on the lot, however emphasized that stormwater management cannot be waived as it would then affect others located downstream. He said there are underground methods to control the stormwater that could be used on the lot. Mr. Ponist clarified that just to get a cost estimate on the stormwater management controls they would need to get the property surveyed and drawings made; Mr. Gray concurred.

 

Mrs. Ponist said they had already scaled back the original addition because of the expense, and with the cost of the stormwater management controls, they would be putting too much money into the property that could not be returned.

 

The Ponists’ thanked the Board for their time.

 

Bucks County Planning Commission / Buckingham Township Park and Recreation Commission

 

Several members of the Buckingham Township Park and Recreation Commission including Jeff Lake, Louise Silberg and Steve McKee, along with Rebecca Fink of the Buckingham Township Planning Commission, and Tom Kelso who is a member of the Doylestown Township Park and Recreation Commission and serves on their Trails Committee, were present to participate in a discussion regarding the Buckingham Township trail system.

 

Mr. Paul Gordon, Trails Planner for the Bucks County Planning Commission, presented a project overview that covered the history of trails planning in Buckingham Township, goals of the Trails Plan, factors influencing and the process involved in the development of the Trails Plan, and the final outcome/product of the planning process.

 

Mr. Gordon said the steps involved would be to:

1) Identify feasible route(s).

2) The Township would then fund the design and engineering stage.

3) The County would apply for a “design only” grant from DCNR.

4) The easements for those areas where the trails cross private property would have to be acquired.

5) Funding would be sought from non-township sources (most funding will not pay for the easements).

6) The project is bid for construction.

 

Mr. Gordon explained there are tiers of funding available for trail creation, sources include the DCNR as a primary source, DCED, and PennDOT’s TIP program, as well as funding from private firms such as William Penn, the Knight Foundation and also PECO Green Region. He said sometimes multi-model funding is used. Mr. Kelso noted private funding is also an option.

 

Mr. Gordon said multi-municipality projects are more highly considered for funding In Buckingham there is potential for multi-municipal projects in the Landisville Road area, as well as potential for the airport on its property and township to form a joint project that could connect to the Cold Spring Creamery Road trail. He also suggested it might make sense to start with the park trails and build from there throughout the developments. 

 

Mr. Gordon proposed a committee could be formed within the township of members who could study segments of the township (either based on location or population density), and evaluate while prioritizing locations. He said that trails with more connectivity are more likely to receive a grant whereas if an expensive bridge is needed, it would be less likely to be considered for a grant. 

 

Mr. Gordon stressed when considering placement for new trails, the state does not allow trails to be placed on their preserved property. On lands preserved by the county and/or township an easement would need to be granted by the landowner prior to consideration of a trail. He also said the goal is to connect trails already in place.

 

Mr. Smith asked if the county anticipated condemning properties for the trails in order to acquire the easements; and Mr. Gordon said they do not condone that, rather they work with the landowner and may negotiate incentives, adding that sometimes the easements are even donated.

 

Mr. Gordon said many trails are constructed of fine crushed stone, which are ADA compliant and inexpensive. However in an area prone to flooding, a paved trail would be preferred. Mr. Calderaio asked if a trail could have both types of surfaces for different uses, and Mr. Gordon said yes, Montgomery County has equestrian use trails (soft) and hard asphalt for bicycles installed in the same location.

 

Mr. Gordon said most of the trails are 10’ wide and serve as an alternate form of transportation. However the 202 Expressway trail is 12’ wide due to the extremely large right of way.

 

Mr. Smith asked how much money is needed per mile to build a trail; Mr. Gordon replied the average cost is one million dollars ($1,000,000.00) a mile for a paved asphalt 10’ wide trail, with boardwalks and bridges being very expensive. He said a crushed stone path averages $400,000 per mile. Mr. Gordon said this is for construction only. To that cost you need to add engineering which averages 20% of the construction cost, plus a contingency for cost overruns. Mr. Gordon commented this did also not include the cost of acquiring easements from private parties, which cost is about two dollars ($2.00) a square foot. Mr. Gordon noted that the necessary stormwater management for impervious surface makes the construction expensive, and if pervious pavement is used it needs to be periodically vacuumed and depends on the soil conditions for consideration.

 

Mr. Lake asked what is the next step; and Mr. Gordon recommended the Board of Supervisors appoint a sub-committee of the Park and Recreation Commission to oversee the plan and process, with the committee to meet monthly. Mr. Gordon said the first meeting could be a joint county and township committee meeting to investigate potential trails.

 

The Board agreed that along with Mr. Gordon and Mr. Ives of Bucks County Planning Commission, Louise Silberg, Rebecca Fink, Dan Gray and Tom Kelso would comprise the membership of the Trail Development Sub-Committee of the Buckingham Township Park and Recreation Commission.

 

Mr. Smith asked if grass trails were ever used; Mr. Gordon replied yes, they are fine for nature walking but must be kept mowed.

 

Mr. Calderaio asked if steps were ever installed on the trails and Mr. Gordon said not usually as steps are not ADA compliant and it would limit the funding possibilities.

 

Mr. Forest asked if other townships snowplow their trails; Mr. Gordon said that is up to the municipality, adding if the trail is not plowed it can be used for snow shoes or cross country skiing.

 

Mrs. Fink requested a current trail map and Mrs. Cozza said Mr. Gray is preparing one to use as a base, and it will be considered for adoption by resolution in the near future by the Board of Supervisors. Mr. Gordon stressed it must mirror the county’s map showing state preserved farm locations, township sprayfields, and other such features. Mrs. Fink said this will be a useful tool for the Planning Commission in reviewing proposed development and encouraging expansion of the trail system.

 

Mr. Gordon said Mr. Gray had asked about sidewalks in villages being part of the trail plan, and the reply is that they may be considered if they led to connectivity, however DCNR does not fund these. Mr. Gray noted residential sidewalks are 4’, commercial are 6’ and trails have to be at least 10’ wide. Mr. Gordon said for community development a 5-6’ trail would work, but would not get funding.

 

Mr. Lake thanked the County and the Board of Supervisors for providing the trail program update and encouragement for the ad hoc committee.

 

Mr. Lake requested an update on the Holicong Park Expansion project; Mr. Gray replied the bid has been awarded and on-site preparation will begin this spring. He said some of the features within the first phase include 3 multi-purpose fields near Route 263/202, 2 tennis courts (which may include pickleball courts), and a 6’ wide mowed trail.

 

Mr. Lake asked why the Park and Recreation Committee’s request for shade canopies at George M. Bush park were denied, and also made a new request for benches to face the sandbox for parents to sit upon. Mrs. Rash said that the Board had concerns regarding the ongoing maintenance of canopies, including damage due to vandalism. Mr. Forest said benches facing the sandbox should be considered.

 

 

7:30 p.m. The Work Session adjourned.

8:42 p.m. The Work Session resumed.

 

SICOM – Parking Request, TMP 6-4-15-2

 

Mr. Gray noted he had received a request from SICOM to add a substantial amount of additional parking to the Land Development plan recently approved by the Board of Supervisors, and presented the concept plan to the Board. Mr. Gray said they also requested to move the septic location in order to add parking in the rear of the building.

 

Mr. Forest said he was informed the sewage is pumped out once a week, and questioned whether they could hook up to the Bucks County Water and Sewer Authority’s or Buckingham Township’s public wastewater services. Mr. Kelso noted they currently use Buckingham Township’s public water services and do not use exceptional amounts.

 

Mr. Smith observed this is a desirable business to have as part of the Township’s community, however, if they outgrow the building and leave, the township will be left with not only a large, empty building, but also a large parking area.

 

Mrs. Bush mentioned that SICOM may be eligible for county incentives for development, which may encourage them to purchase a neighboring property for expansion purposes.

 

The Board agreed that the concept of additional parking in the rear of the building was fine if the engineering is approved by the township engineer. However they did not approve of the remainder of the additional parking, including parking on any of the streets surrounding the building. The Board said they had no problem with the concept of moving the septic system or exploring a public sanitary sewer hook-up to either the Bucks County Water and Sewer Authority or Buckingham Township’s system; however the township engineers would also have to review and approve these options.

 

Lindquist Property, Old York Road, TMP 6-10-224

 

Mrs. Cozza updated the Board saying that she, along with Mr. Orton, and several employees of the Water and Wastewater Department had toured the Lindquist site with the intention of re-using the farmstead as the Water and Wastewater Department’s main central offices. She said there are many expected upgrades that will be necessary to convert the space to office use, however the 2nd floor does not need to be made handicapped accessible, and the 1st floor has good space to work with.

 

Mrs. Cozza said the department had requested an exterior entry locker room, and it seems if the current addition to the main house were removed, which addition appears to suffer from water damage, a new space could be built for a kitchen area and locker room to fit their needs and be handicapped accessible.

 

Mrs. Cozza also noted that she, Mr. Kelso and several of the Water and Wastewater Department employees would be visiting the Water and Wastewater facility used by Hilltown Township, as they also re-used a historic structure, and it has the same character as this potential new space.

 

The Board agreed the concept was very good.

 

9:50 p.m. The Board retired into executive session to discuss ongoing litigation with the Bucks County Airport Authority over the Young tract, and with Toll Brothers over the Feeney tract and to discuss the potential purchase of conservation easements on the Doan tract and the Maximuck tract.

 

10:15 p.m. The Work Session was adjourned.

 

Approved by the Board of Supervisors on the 24th day of May, 2017.

                                                                                                        Buckingham Township Board of Supervisors

          

                                                                                                       ______________________________________

                                                                                                       Maggie Rash, Chairman

 

                                                                                                     ______________________________________

                                                                                                     Paul Calderaio, Vice- Chairman

 

                                                                                                    ______________________________________ 

                                                                                                    Jon Forest, Member

Attest:

_____________________________

Dana S. Cozza, Secretary

 

Minutes respectfully submitted by Lori Wicen.

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